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Sunday, August 27, 2017

Flexibility, School Discipline, and Choice

Robert Pondiscio and I have been having a conversation (a statemennt which is true on almost any given day) that started in the comments section of this post, and then continued in this post. You can go back and read the full thing, or you can settle for my somewhat glib abbreviated version:

Me: School disciplinary codes are codified versions of someone's values system.

Pondiscio: Exactly! That's why we need school choice.

This is another version of a conversation I've had with well-intentioned people within the reformster world (yes, I believe there are such folks." Basically, we agree on problems, but disagree on solutions. Pondiscio writes:

When we seek to establish, valorize, or impose one set of beliefs about student discipline as the “right” one, we are functionally communicating that all others are “wrong.” Greene’s recognition of the values-laden nature of discipline systems all but begs for choice: Parents should be able to weigh, as one factor among many, schools whose philosophy about behavior management, classroom culture, and approach to student discipline most closely mirror their own beliefs and practices.

I'm with him for one sentence-- then we part ways. As with many features and problems of schools, I think public schools are better positioned to respond to the problem. Here's why:

First, the "one factor among many" issue means that parents will not be perfectly happy with a choice school, because "traditional disciplinary method with strong science program and a good band with friendly teachers and a good location and..." gets to be a tough order to fill. So compromises will be made.

But two-- a private/charter/choice school generally offers less flexibility and less opportunity to negotiate. If you like certain aspects of Catholic school education, but you don't want your children exposed to all the Catholic Jesus stuff, there's no board member to call, no administrator to talk to, no accommodations to be called for, no hope in hell that you'll get what you want. Likewise, many charter schools can afford to be completely unresponsive-- they have no government mandate to serve all students and as I've outlined elsewhere, their bus8iness model means they are largely insulated from the "market pressures" that are supposed to force them to change. They don't have to make everyone happy-- they just need to fill a certain number of seats.

So if, for instance, you are a parent who wants to put your child in a charter that has been sold as a high-achieving, send-your-child-to-college academic powerhouse, but once you get there, you discover a no excuses atmosphere that is soul-killing for your child, you can try to contact a board member, or talk to an administrator-- but they aren't going to change a thing for you or your child. Don't like it? There's the door.

Reform fans talk about parent choice. But parents only ever get to choose from the offerings made available to them. It's the people who set up charters and private schools that get to exercise their choices. 

Are there public schools where the values are rigid and inflexible? Sure, and that's often inexcusable, but just as citizens of Phoenix could mobilize to oust a racist, lawbreaking sheriff, voters can replace their school board members with those who represent a different philosophy. Public schools always have available avenues for change and growth and reconciling multiple viewpoints. Charter and choice schools mostly do not.

There are always going to be values that are nearly impossible to have coexist-- most notably it's hard to reconcile the value of a pluralistic community that allows for different views and the value that says "there is one right path and everyone must follow it." And if we did charters right (which currently we absolutely don't, but that's a hundred other posts) this is one area in which they would be useful. Maybe. I have misgivings still.

I have misgivings because a rigid winner-take-all approach just mirrors the similar hardening of political lines in our society, and I don't notice that really making the country a better place. But in the end, while I think I understand Pondiscio's point, I believe that public schools ultimately offer more choice under their sloppy, messy, many-faceted roof than charter/choice schools which are brittle and inflexible.

6 comments:

  1. "When we seek to establish, valorize, or impose one set of beliefs about student discipline as the “right” one, we are functionally communicating that all others are “wrong.”"

    Well, but that's kind of true, isn't it? Research invariably shows far better responses and outcomes when "discipline" is actually what it means - teaching. When parents, educators or anyone else who deals with children engage with them in ways to sooth the primitive, reactive parts of the brain like the amygdala and instead activate the higher order executive cerebral functions, children not only respond better in the moment, but it creates lasting positive behavior. When parents, educators and others respond harshly and punitively, it activates the amygdala and other primitive brain structures because humans are hard-wired to perceive threats to the organism and react in ways to promote survival. It's just that our brains haven't evolved enough to really recognize the difference between "I'm about to be eaten by a lion" vs. "I'm going to be spanked" vs. "I have to go sit in a corner by myself. All three of those are perceived by the primitive brain as threats to the organism, which only further escalates the situation which the kid is reacting to in the first place.

    But if instead, parents, educators and others can react to a child in a way to soothe the survival response and instead engage higher-order problem solving skills, then kids learn to trust, and once trust is developed, there's much less need for reactive survival responses.

    So there *is* truth here. There *is* a right and a wrong way to do things, at least if we really care about what's best for kids, not what best satisfies our own egos and power trips. I have no problem at all saying that "no excuses" and behaviorism and other sorts of punitive and controlling "discipline" [sic] methods are, in fact, wrong. It's not a belief, it's based in factual, scientific, documented, repeated research.

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  2. Peter, it sounds like you're saying that because a charter can never perfectly match each set of parent's values, there should be no charters.

    <<< Parents will not be perfectly happy with a choice school, because "traditional disciplinary method with strong science program and a good band with friendly teachers and a good location and..." gets to be a tough order to fill. So compromises will be made.>>>

    If you have 1 public school and 3 charters serving a given set of students, how are there fewer values compromises if you eliminate the charters and are left with just a single public school?

    Sure, the parents can complain to the school board (as you suggest), but it's a zero sum game -- one set of values must be imposed. Previously you had 4 different combinations of value sets, now you have only 1. How is that an improvement?

    To make an analogy... When I vote for President, I never find a candidate that agrees with me completely. Does that mean I would be better off living in Venezuela or Iran, where only 1 person is allowed to run?

    <<< Reform fans talk about parent choice. But parents only ever get to choose from the offerings made available to them. >>>

    How does reducing the number of offerings available improve parent's ability to choose a value set for their kid's education?

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    1. I can't write the whole piece again into the comments section. If you don't agree, you don't agree, but the above represents my shot at explaining my point.

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    2. Brian Villanueva, thank you for improving upon the argument that I made. Bravo.

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    3. As Dienne says, science shows what works. The only problem is that large class sizes make it difficult to develop the trust necessary. That's the problem that needs to be fixed.

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