tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6534665086749553287.post8587982987259958711..comments2024-03-28T11:57:21.902-04:00Comments on CURMUDGUCATION: Biden Administration Won't Waive Big Standardized Test. Dammit.Peter Greenehttp://www.blogger.com/profile/16511193640285760299noreply@blogger.comBlogger27125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6534665086749553287.post-66705744064905428412021-03-09T11:56:08.832-05:002021-03-09T11:56:08.832-05:00Just give in...give the testing corporations the t...Just give in...give the testing corporations the testing money (that is what standardized tests are for) so they can give politicians their share of bribes...oops..."campaign contributions" and then forget the rest of it all. Sort of a "Pay the bullies to leave us alone" compromise. Of course they'll always come back for more so perhaps we should just revive the opt out "F the man!" approach. Moozehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00859631541132442877noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6534665086749553287.post-90500815691782220602021-03-04T16:51:24.137-05:002021-03-04T16:51:24.137-05:00Well HE LEFT It to STATES. 'Think globally, ac...Well HE LEFT It to STATES. 'Think globally, act locally'. Let's MAKE SURE Pennsylvania ... or whatever state you are in.... does the right thing. And while we are at it, ditch most homework!Joan Gunn Broadfieldhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12755651726493688953noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6534665086749553287.post-65322274773877114902021-02-25T16:57:10.537-05:002021-02-25T16:57:10.537-05:00The education "stakeholders" that praise...The education "stakeholders" that praise this move are the CEO's of the testing companies, who will make enough money off these tests for big bonuses. Tokyo had the sense to postpone the Olympics when it was obvious that the virus might interfere with the safety of the athletes and their ability to practice!<br />Cidhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15410006703651541908noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6534665086749553287.post-28420282932495216512021-02-24T09:34:18.419-05:002021-02-24T09:34:18.419-05:00As a parent, if my child had you as a teacher, I w...As a parent, if my child had you as a teacher, I would request a transfer out of your class. You can believe in the stupid tests and their magical unicorn poop results all you want, but to believe that children should have stress and duress imposed on them (because life is stressful) by the very person (a teacher) who is supposed to care and mentor them is psychological abuse. Life is a journey and should be enjoyed. Education is a journey and should be enjoyed. School should not feel like a prison sentence because adult life can/may be stressful. Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6534665086749553287.post-52145733665449009022021-02-24T08:47:35.172-05:002021-02-24T08:47:35.172-05:00Rebecca Klein's article in HuffPost said "...Rebecca Klein's article in HuffPost said "The Biden administration’s move was met with widespread praise from most education stakeholders." What "education stakeholders" are these, as they don't appear to be teachers, parents, or students?Rebecca deCocahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13168718846105012814noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6534665086749553287.post-19882055311092175072021-02-24T08:31:20.588-05:002021-02-24T08:31:20.588-05:00As a retired high school teacher and a parent, I h...As a retired high school teacher and a parent, I have to disagree with you.<br /><br />Standardized tests tell you mostly what the socio-economics of the school are, and you can find that out easily through other means. As for colleges, research tells us that the best predictor of college success is not a standardized test, but the student's high school GPA. <br /><br />I don't even know where to start with "Life is hard, so we should make it hard for kids, too."Peter Greenehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16511193640285760299noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6534665086749553287.post-88211196588553052532021-02-24T08:27:42.336-05:002021-02-24T08:27:42.336-05:00That was actually at a candidate forum in Pittsbur...That was actually at a candidate forum in Pittsburgh. I was in the audience. Here's a link to the video (it won't be live, thanks blogger, but anyone who wants to see it can still cut and paste the link into their browser)<br />https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=haGLsCBPWKA&feature=share&fbclid=IwAR0iqkexS43uavejZtwgf24Uh40KUlv3NJPLqb4sgIt87OkRUca0v60VwBQPeter Greenehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16511193640285760299noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6534665086749553287.post-11803946152786549262021-02-24T08:05:03.045-05:002021-02-24T08:05:03.045-05:00As a high school teacher and as a parent, I have t...As a high school teacher and as a parent, I have to disagree.<br /><br />Nobody likes standard test, but it is an important tool for parents to know where should I move if I want my child to have a decent education. <br /><br />Test score does not tell you everything about a student, but no standard test makes it impossible for colleges to compare objectively applicants from all over the country and all over the world.<br /><br />Yes, this year is stressful and difficult, but life is stressful and difficult most of the time. We cannot afford to have our students grow up without the capability to handle stress and difficulties.Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03156008859541673697noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6534665086749553287.post-6626865667075782912021-02-23T19:57:53.180-05:002021-02-23T19:57:53.180-05:00I neglected to say that when you double the 2 week...I neglected to say that when you double the 2 weeks--since the students are only there two days a week--now the "shortened" tests take up 4 weeks!Feduphttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05226144240877916341noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6534665086749553287.post-26326518138995390532021-02-23T18:40:46.855-05:002021-02-23T18:40:46.855-05:00"The pandemic has made absolutely clear what ..."The pandemic has made absolutely clear what kids already know: schooling is not about their development, happiness, or indeed, their education. It's about ensuring that they don't slip off the treadmill." schooling is not for learning, it is for test-taking.Nora Janehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11319798740652327118noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6534665086749553287.post-56471258432616593232021-02-23T18:39:10.968-05:002021-02-23T18:39:10.968-05:00So was I. That does not make a difference if you a...So was I. That does not make a difference if you are a thinking person who cares about children. I am hoping that she will say to them, "What were you thinking???" I cannot believe that Biden would go back to the bad old days where everything in education was a competition and states had to spend tons of money on all this testing, and children were left doing test-prep for at least a month prior to the tests because there teachers were afraid how the kids did on the test could result in them losing their jobs.Nora Janehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11319798740652327118noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6534665086749553287.post-38796123441126848412021-02-23T18:35:25.335-05:002021-02-23T18:35:25.335-05:00Bad start for education under the Biden Administra...Bad start for education under the Biden Administration. I am hoping that Jill will have some input here. I would hate to think that they are all complicit with this. More of the same all, same all! I was hoping that we would be entering a time of reimagining education in new ways.Nora Janehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11319798740652327118noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6534665086749553287.post-1170312423870064072021-02-23T18:29:06.742-05:002021-02-23T18:29:06.742-05:00This is the article I referenced above, where ther...This is the article I referenced above, where there are clips of Biden saying he would end standardized testing, among other things. <br /><br />https://tennesseestar.com/2019/12/17/joe-biden-says-hell-end-standardized-testing-in-public-schools-after-questioner-calls-them-rooted-in-a-history-of-racism/Kobishttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16778054056084383752noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6534665086749553287.post-43668619941606723112021-02-23T13:02:44.529-05:002021-02-23T13:02:44.529-05:00A shortened version? What most people don't u...A shortened version? What most people don't understand is that the current tests take at least 3 weeks away from teaching and learning for regular and spec. ed. So, a shortened version would take, what, 2 weeks to prepare and administer AND take Reading teachers away from teaching to administer tests with accommodations? Speaking of special ed, when is someone going to speak up for the special ed students who are traumatized by having to take a "grade-level" test. They CANNOT do that work; that's why they are special ed! I consider it child abuse. Can they be serious that students can take the test at home with mom and dad looking over their shoulder? AND not report some schools because, well, you know, they are just not any place the real estate agent will suggest you buy.Feduphttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05226144240877916341noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6534665086749553287.post-18954875309614538322021-02-23T13:01:29.497-05:002021-02-23T13:01:29.497-05:00Opt out parents and students. Every.Damn.Year. Jus...Opt out parents and students. Every.Damn.Year. Just don't take another standardized test. Time to go cold turkey.Liz Brownhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16571912931116352105noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6534665086749553287.post-60211853833982233742021-02-23T11:26:27.114-05:002021-02-23T11:26:27.114-05:00Time for a massive test OPT OUT movement -- https:...Time for a massive test OPT OUT movement -- https://www.fairtest.org/get-involved/opting-outBob Schaefferhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17637515992775819816noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6534665086749553287.post-89465646887289088502021-02-23T09:29:04.712-05:002021-02-23T09:29:04.712-05:00After feeling like I wanted to cry most of the eve...After feeling like I wanted to cry most of the evening, at the very least this made me laugh..."In other words, it's really vital that you give this super-important test, but it's okay if you just half-ass it." Seriously though, this is all pretty ridiculous. All of our instructional time will be going to this dumb test for no reason, which would be bad enough.... but the tech aspect involved in administering it remotely in CA where I teach was enough to completely befuddle my entire group last week when we were "trained". I don't want to be party to something that makes a 10 year old feel frustrated and feel like they should doubt themselves, when NOTHING WILL BE GAINED. megarooniehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02434461253996884755noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6534665086749553287.post-49080167495063485122021-02-23T09:26:12.838-05:002021-02-23T09:26:12.838-05:00She couldn’t care less. Call it a hunch. She was o...She couldn’t care less. Call it a hunch. She was out of the K-12 classroom before the all-consuming age of accountability came upon us. John Phillipshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15386155556890535175noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6534665086749553287.post-30187083187381430022021-02-23T08:02:47.991-05:002021-02-23T08:02:47.991-05:00"States can ask for a waiver from reporting a..."States can ask for a waiver from reporting and identifying schools with low results, as well as getting a bye on ESEA's 95% participation rule. So schools will not face evaluation based on the test scores this year (if the state asks for the waiver)."<br /><br />Can teachers get a similar waiver? Linking test scores to teacher evaluations through RTTT and Duncan's NCLB waiver was the single most harmful aspect of the Common Core reform movement.<br /><br />If tests results are not used to threaten and punish schools and teachers our complaints will seem more like whining. test scores might end up revealing things that their cheerleaders may not want to see.<br />NY Teacherhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08292448959963091160noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6534665086749553287.post-36038954122511649772021-02-23T05:50:08.585-05:002021-02-23T05:50:08.585-05:00I really didn't expect any change.
The War on...I really didn't expect any change. <br />The War on Education plows ahead!Garhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08067608777753780399noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6534665086749553287.post-47423586442122294132021-02-23T00:03:17.117-05:002021-02-23T00:03:17.117-05:00And then when we tell them what we need to be succ...And then when we tell them what we need to be successful(smaller class size, better pay for teachers) they will deny us and replace teachers with educational software.Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13229294284113508760noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6534665086749553287.post-25139368577927635172021-02-22T22:51:56.400-05:002021-02-22T22:51:56.400-05:00Perhaps the answer is to ensure that a whole lot o...Perhaps the answer is to ensure that a whole lot of kids "fail" the tests and see if they pony up the dough. Hannah13https://www.blogger.com/profile/17342866965252996458noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6534665086749553287.post-15877051638303590382021-02-22T20:27:51.576-05:002021-02-22T20:27:51.576-05:00Not surprising, considering Rosenblum's CV. In...Not surprising, considering Rosenblum's CV. In fact, when you look at all the not-needing-confirmation folks on the ED roster, most of them are Obama leftovers (with Duncanesque policy beliefs), heavy-duty Dems, or folks like Rosenblum who worked for nonprofits like EdTrust or Center for American Progress. <br /><br />His rather incoherent answer--half-assing it, as you said--feels like he didn't want to come out and say hey, go ahead and skip the tests so he just mumbled a bunch of stuff about how we have to know about the kids and all the test-makers will be mad at me if I let this go. <br /><br />My take on this? Time for Opt-Out to gear up again. Full-bore. Any parent who is asked to bring their kid to school for a one-time test should refuse. Any superintendent, given the option, should cut testing way, way back--or refuse. <br /><br />Time to build some anti-testing battlements.Nancy Flanaganhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00047575960944913289noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6534665086749553287.post-81477262399255600222021-02-22T20:19:40.049-05:002021-02-22T20:19:40.049-05:00Look up the Tennesee Star.. December 17, 2019. He...Look up the Tennesee Star.. December 17, 2019. He was asked point blank if he would end standardized testing, and he answers, Yes and proceeded to tell the lady who asked that she was, "Preaching to the choir, kid."Kobishttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16778054056084383752noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6534665086749553287.post-55398951360446423382021-02-22T19:54:25.333-05:002021-02-22T19:54:25.333-05:00Do you have any idea who is behind this? The acti...Do you have any idea who is behind this? The acting secretary isn't standing alone. Who is supporting this? Find out who is pushing this and what they stand to gain. This decision can't be more counterintuitive. Is Dr. Jill Biden, teacher, supporting this? Or is she outraged? Kobishttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16778054056084383752noreply@blogger.com