tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6534665086749553287.post4305779538922313201..comments2024-03-29T04:34:05.185-04:00Comments on CURMUDGUCATION: Joy, Data and Jumbo ShrimpPeter Greenehttp://www.blogger.com/profile/16511193640285760299noreply@blogger.comBlogger8125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6534665086749553287.post-41435968395266029152015-05-27T20:44:01.221-04:002015-05-27T20:44:01.221-04:00We don't really need to include the "Sir&...We don't really need to include the "Sir" honorific. It confers unwarranted gravitas upon the person.Unknownhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01638646078223591586noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6534665086749553287.post-61561323115283640922015-05-27T16:39:34.710-04:002015-05-27T16:39:34.710-04:00“Of all tyrannies, a tyranny sincerely exercised f...“Of all tyrannies, a tyranny sincerely exercised for the good of its victims may be the most oppressive. It would be better to live under robber barons than under omnipotent moral busybodies. The robber baron's cruelty may sometimes sleep, his cupidity may at some point be satiated; but those who torment us for our own good will torment us without end for they do so with the approval of their own conscience.”<br />- C. S. LewisJ. Chaffeehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13144733480628680029noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6534665086749553287.post-62487617441013590572015-05-27T13:32:47.426-04:002015-05-27T13:32:47.426-04:00Wow! "Dewey's vision of public education ...Wow! "Dewey's vision of public education as preparing kids to fit social needs" is not even close to what what Dewey says. But, yeah sooth your narrow mind to blame this on Dewey the only person who has ever had a view of education that makes sense...Johnhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05636498403385778779noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6534665086749553287.post-36668073758959165232015-05-27T10:20:43.810-04:002015-05-27T10:20:43.810-04:00Yeah, it says he taught "in schools in Britai...Yeah, it says he taught "in schools in Britain and Zimbabwe" but not where or how long and the whole article sounded like a PR release.Rebecca deCocahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13168718846105012814noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6534665086749553287.post-41546087230300722182015-05-27T06:45:59.624-04:002015-05-27T06:45:59.624-04:00I see you've fallen for the propaganda regardi...I see you've fallen for the propaganda regarding Progressive Education. Why not try actually reading Dewey for yourself rather than believing the right-wing lies? You'll find, in fact, that Dewey is saying exactly the opposite of what you think. Dewey is rolling in his grave over education "reform".Diennehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04570040547158789834noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6534665086749553287.post-86958983433767236362015-05-27T06:42:22.856-04:002015-05-27T06:42:22.856-04:00Barber, like Gates, is what Erich Hofer called a &...Barber, like Gates, is what Erich Hofer called a "true believer". These people are delusional or close to it, as evidenced by such cooked-up-tripe titles as "educationist" (is that like "nudist"?). And being give such wealth and power as a result of one's truly believing doesn't help for a reality check either.<br /><br />But I would also argue that this can be traced back to the original Progressives and John Dewey's vision of public education as preparing children to fit social needs, rather than following the classical model of intellectual and moral development. Once we started down the road of "scientific education" we became trapped by Fredrick Taylor's phoney "scientific management", and we've suffered jackasses like Barber ever since.dplentinihttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14175827472300873294noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6534665086749553287.post-83936972807908653482015-05-27T06:06:59.454-04:002015-05-27T06:06:59.454-04:00I Googled Barber's bio and found that the Wiki...I Googled Barber's bio and found that the Wikipedia entry styles him an "educationist:" "an expert in the theories or administration of education." <br /><br />Not the actual *practice* of education, mind you, but just theories and administration.<br /><br />Ew. Just.....ew.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6534665086749553287.post-12004414073083386762015-05-27T02:38:54.454-04:002015-05-27T02:38:54.454-04:00I followed your Knewton link and read the Kolowich...I followed your Knewton link and read the Kolowich article you recommend at the end of it and found it very interesting. And I want to read Gleick"s Chaos.<br /><br />"All Your School Are Belong To Us" - Love the reference. "Somebody set up us the bomb" : ) Rebecca deCocahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13168718846105012814noreply@blogger.com