tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6534665086749553287.post2872325105426484445..comments2024-03-28T19:47:39.985-04:00Comments on CURMUDGUCATION: NYT: Value Not AddedPeter Greenehttp://www.blogger.com/profile/16511193640285760299noreply@blogger.comBlogger5125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6534665086749553287.post-34195621406037752122017-05-22T16:12:34.064-04:002017-05-22T16:12:34.064-04:00Virtually every NYS teacher (outside of NYC/UFT)no...Virtually every NYS teacher (outside of NYC/UFT)now has 50% of their evaluation based on "distributed" test scores, in most cases, these are shared HS Regents exam scores in algebra, biology, global history, US history, and ELA. Instead of VAM, New York uses SLOs which determine teacher effectiveness using the percent of students that have met randomly established "target goals" using the average of said Regents exam scores (which can be re-taken numerous times). Yes, even the elementary school music teacher will be evaluated this way. Most districts have established target goals that they know (using historic Regents scores) will have all teachers rated effective. I don't think any teacher evaluation system can get any further down the rabbit hole than New York. This is all thanks to 2020 presidential hopeful, Andrew Cuomo.NY Teacherhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08292448959963091160noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6534665086749553287.post-47329360816048041892017-05-22T15:36:42.381-04:002017-05-22T15:36:42.381-04:00I met and talked to Sanders a couple of times due ...I met and talked to Sanders a couple of times due to the fact that he grew up in my county. We had a very early conversation when he came to explain his teacher-rating system to us local teachers. He explained his straight lines and talked about his equations obliquely. When he was done, I asked him how he accounted for the differences in opinion about what should be taught.<br /><br />He was bewildered in a way that made me understand that he had not a clue that there might be a difference in opinion as to what might be fair game in a class. That one teacher might study Steinbeck and another, Twain, and that this might affect the score on a test over American literature, had never crossed his mind.<br /><br />Those who wish the world could be described by numberRoy Turrentinehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09667852735199543689noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6534665086749553287.post-73731689510610217982017-05-21T19:25:39.693-04:002017-05-21T19:25:39.693-04:00I'm still stuck on the fact that anybody is li...I'm still stuck on the fact that anybody is listening to a fella with a degree in statistics who doesn't understand how bell curves work...Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01223251137400603071noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6534665086749553287.post-52662366990834687972017-05-21T15:00:45.339-04:002017-05-21T15:00:45.339-04:00"...a chime whose resonance gains in power ov..."...a chime whose resonance gains in power over time." How poetic. Carey should stick to writing ad copy.Rebecca deCocahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13168718846105012814noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6534665086749553287.post-48552035070852256852017-05-21T12:39:24.798-04:002017-05-21T12:39:24.798-04:00"To fairly evaluate teachers, Mr. Sanders arg..."To fairly evaluate teachers, Mr. Sanders argued, the state needed to calculate an expected growth trajectory for each student in each subject, based on past test performance, then compare those predictions with their actual growth."<br /><br />That makes it seem like they're going to take Little Susie's lifetime test scores, look at the pattern thereof, then predict what Little Susie's test scores should continue to be. Then do the same for Little Johnny, Little Nellie, Little Timmy and so on for every kid in every teacher's class. That would be bad enough, but at least it would be based on actual data of actual kids in Ms. Smith's class and the actual kids in Mr. Jones' class, etc.<br /><br />But what they actually do bears no resemblance to that at all. There is no specific tracking of individual kids year to year. It's just some kind of model based on generalized characteristics of generalized kids.Diennehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02815534068806482353noreply@blogger.com