tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6534665086749553287.post5195462441350558686..comments2024-03-29T04:34:05.185-04:00Comments on CURMUDGUCATION: A Field Guide To Testing AdvocatesPeter Greenehttp://www.blogger.com/profile/16511193640285760299noreply@blogger.comBlogger8125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6534665086749553287.post-21486238523151443122016-04-11T09:50:16.763-04:002016-04-11T09:50:16.763-04:00@teachingeconomist....The test may recognize more ...@teachingeconomist....The test may recognize more minority academic talent, but it doesn't recognize motivation by the student, family involvement or socioeconomic status(POVERTY, Language barrier). I believe there are many students that are capable of GT programs (Math and English), but if their love of learning is geared more to the "arts" then what use is cramming advanced Math and English down a kids throat? If the child is not motivated by the course work, what good will come of it in the end? GT courses require a certain degree of parental involvement but what happens if those parents have to work 4 jobs to put food on the table and the "GT student" is required to watch over siblings or work to help support the family? What about the single parent households? These are the" human factors" that teachers have knowledge of and NO test can factor into the equation the success of the "whole child". Some kids are good at math, but that doesn't mean they love it enough that they want to make it a mission. edblisahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01792046029260177146noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6534665086749553287.post-57494809605294811532016-04-10T18:32:00.780-04:002016-04-10T18:32:00.780-04:00Sibley had a much easier job writing his Field Gui...Sibley had a much easier job writing his Field Guide to Birds. He got to go outdoors in the sunshine and see beautiful displays of their habitats, behavior and plumage. You, dear Peter, must have spent much time reading the postings of trolls and the reformistas' interwebs to do this research. Thank you for such a thorough dissection!<br /><br />Christine LanghofflaMissyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00516322307725011313noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6534665086749553287.post-81029974348666450812016-04-10T18:21:08.391-04:002016-04-10T18:21:08.391-04:00Which doesn't negate that the tests in questio...Which doesn't negate that the tests in question are also racist and classist, or that minority parents haven't been sold a bill of goods by manipulating their view of the value of tests. That's what corporate shills are good at—manipulating the customers.Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09737598049116959997noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6534665086749553287.post-89340395125426832442016-04-10T16:57:11.760-04:002016-04-10T16:57:11.760-04:00It does have everything to do with getting a secon...It does have everything to do with getting a second opinion about a student's academic progress. When tests took the place of teacher recommendations, minority academic talent was much more likely to be recognized. This might explain why parents of minority students view tests more favorably than suburban parents of white students.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6534665086749553287.post-57160046591303218642016-04-10T09:53:38.613-04:002016-04-10T09:53:38.613-04:00It is a great story. It just doesn't have anyt...It is a great story. It just doesn't have anything to do with the federally-mandated Big Standardized Tests. Nobody is getting identified as gifted based on their PARCC results.Peter Greenehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16511193640285760299noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6534665086749553287.post-52148531078303421172016-04-10T09:50:11.063-04:002016-04-10T09:50:11.063-04:00There was an interesting article in the NYT about ...There was an interesting article in the NYT about standardized tests and social justice. Before 2005, Broward County Florida relied on teacher recommendations and parent referrals to identify students to test into the gifted program in the public schools. In 2005 they shifted to requiring all second grade students to take a short non-verbal test with all high scorers automatically referred to take the test for the gifted program.<br /><br />When teacher and parent referrals removed, the percentage of African American students identified as gifted tripled, the percentage of Hispanic students identified as gifted tripled, and the percentage of white students identified went up by 1/4.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6534665086749553287.post-52888485957244007872016-04-10T09:49:16.615-04:002016-04-10T09:49:16.615-04:00Nailed it! (as usual)
10 different rationales for...Nailed it! (as usual)<br /><br />10 different rationales for testing and after 15 years of test-based reform you might think that maybe one or two of these would prove to be valid reasons for wasting untold billions of dollars and completely transforming classroom life for the worse.<br /><br />Oh for ten is their 15 year track record of abject FAILURE, and still it continues unabated. Test-based reform now seems more like an addiction than anything else. <br /><br />NY Teacherhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06584135103498426410noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6534665086749553287.post-46618733199177802552016-04-10T08:37:48.281-04:002016-04-10T08:37:48.281-04:00Another of your best gems. Chapeau, Peter! Right o...Another of your best gems. Chapeau, Peter! Right on the money!Rebecca deCocahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13168718846105012814noreply@blogger.com