tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6534665086749553287.post5163777667643223132..comments2024-03-29T04:34:05.185-04:00Comments on CURMUDGUCATION: Problems with Performance-Based CompensationPeter Greenehttp://www.blogger.com/profile/16511193640285760299noreply@blogger.comBlogger5125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6534665086749553287.post-33429984718655252732017-06-27T07:37:41.409-04:002017-06-27T07:37:41.409-04:00Good point. You have to give a grade, but I always...Good point. You have to give a grade, but I always used a point system that took into account effort and engagement besides scores on tests.Rebecca deCocahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13168718846105012814noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6534665086749553287.post-54754952341862207022017-06-26T18:50:00.107-04:002017-06-26T18:50:00.107-04:00Ah, but music isn't a "real" subject...Ah, but music isn't a "real" subject anyway (I say this with tongue firmly in cheek as a music teacher myself), so music teachers, along with art & PE and other non-tested subjects, shouldn't be eligible for that stuff anyway.<br /><br />(Once again, hear this being read in an "I'm not serious, just deadpanning" deadpan voice.)CrunchyMamahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14434606158400653601noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6534665086749553287.post-72381878548387443202017-06-26T04:00:02.300-04:002017-06-26T04:00:02.300-04:00Most of Meer's second paragraph in her article...Most of Meer's second paragraph in her article is word for word plagiarism from a paper by Center for American Progress which she links to but does not properly cite for using their words. She also ignores the paper's substance, which is that districts that were studied that want to provide individual pay incentives because they think it would attract a better caliber of teacher do so by rewarding veteran expert teachers for taking on additional roles and responsibilities, not just performance; that pay linked to performance has to use an evaluation system that teachers see as fair; and that additional money is necessary from public or private sources to try to make such a transition.<br /><br />Meer doesn't seem to really want to be sure all students are taught by "effective" teachers, because she seems fine with "ineffective" teachers staying on, just without moving up the pay scale. Rebecca deCocahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13168718846105012814noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6534665086749553287.post-51697328796252720222017-06-25T18:54:56.070-04:002017-06-25T18:54:56.070-04:00As a retired statistician married to a K-12 music ...As a retired statistician married to a K-12 music teacher, I am well aware of one of the biggest problems of "merit" pay. How do you measure her performance? There is no valid music test so her VAM scores are based on some average figure. Such an average , of course, can mathematically never be top-ranked.Terryhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/18393538609462750583noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6534665086749553287.post-2956147507953268522017-06-25T18:29:17.636-04:002017-06-25T18:29:17.636-04:00I am thrilled that teachers are understanding why ...I am thrilled that teachers are understanding why judging people based on "performance" is such a tricky thing and why we shouldn't hand out "goodies" (salaries, promotions, etc.) based on "performance".<br /><br />Now, if only we could take that a step further and apply it to students too....Diennehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04570040547158789834noreply@blogger.com