tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6534665086749553287.post2730045659528948584..comments2024-03-29T04:34:05.185-04:00Comments on CURMUDGUCATION: MI: When Legislators Don't Understand TestingPeter Greenehttp://www.blogger.com/profile/16511193640285760299noreply@blogger.comBlogger4125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6534665086749553287.post-67520449553885367902018-06-19T20:59:27.864-04:002018-06-19T20:59:27.864-04:00Until we disabuse ourselves of the notion that sta...Until we disabuse ourselves of the notion that standardized tests do anything other than make money for their makers. . . . .Duane Swackerhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11862054631331567527noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6534665086749553287.post-62903580636741486522018-06-16T01:23:15.953-04:002018-06-16T01:23:15.953-04:00We believe in the motto ”learn and develop while p...<br />We believe in the motto ”learn and develop while playing”.Your tiny tots get the learning experience with creative and playway of coaching. 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Please do help me suggest <br /> <a href="%E2%80%9D" rel="nofollow"> The Best School in Perambur </a><br /><a href="%E2%80%9D" rel="nofollow"> The Best School in Vyasarpadi </a><br />tishapatel2000https://www.blogger.com/profile/02030037008877377029noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6534665086749553287.post-79347262180366063772018-06-15T20:44:22.846-04:002018-06-15T20:44:22.846-04:00It's interesting how corporate ed. reformers a...It's interesting how corporate ed. reformers and/or folks involved in de-professionalization of teaching have a situational opinion of the SAT test --- one that varies depending on the purpose or situation at hand.<br /><br />When you want to lower the bar of who gets to become a teacher, those SAT scores mean nothing.<br /><br />However, when you want to lower the pay that teachers earn --- which also destroys teaching as a profession --- then you know ... maybe those SAT scores might not be so meaningless after all.<br /><br />The article (that is the subject of this blow posts) states, "Bill Disessa, a spokesperson for the department, said there's no research showing that individuals who pass the SAT are better teachers."<br /><br />I agree with that, as no one's ever come to any agreement or set any kind of score threshold that constitutes "passing."<br /><br />However, check this out. <br /><br />This other corporate ed. reform group, in pursuit of their goal of gutting the pay/benefits of teachers, attempts to make the argument that teachers are overpaid. In making that case, they use an interesting criterion to prove this:<br /><br />So many teachers, by and large .... HAVE SUCH LOW SAT SCORES (???!!!)<br /><br />You see, these prospective teachers get into college with such low SAT scores, and then their undemanding college profs in the Ed. Department --- those folks training future teachers --- then start going easy on those future teachers. <br /><br />The proof: because those previously low-scores-on-SAT students then get such high grades in their classes --- again, higher grades than they really should be getting, given their comparatively lower SAT scores --- that is they get higher grades, compared to the grades given to students in other college majors or departments.<br /><br />I know. This is asinine, but this is what they try to argue:<br /><br />https://www.heritage.org/education/commentary/are-teachers-overpaid-response-critics<br />------------------<br />"University of Missouri economist Corey Koedel finds that, despite entering college with below-average SAT scores, 'education students receive higher grades than do students in every other academic discipline.' " <br />-------------------------<br /><br />Damn those grade-inflating Ed. Departments professors!<br /><br />It gets better. The typical teacher, given his crap-can SAT (or GRE) scores, gets about what he deserves in base salary, but when you factor in what he gets in other benefits, that same typical teacher graduation from these corrupt Ed. Departments is actually suckers down way more cash than he REALLY deserves, compared to what his higher-SAT-score counterparts in other industries are earning. <br /><br />NOTE how it's just a given that SAT scores must be blindly accepted as "more-objective measures of ability" of teachers in the classroom. <br /><br />Oh yeah? Says who? What does being able to sit down at take a multiple-choice test at age 17 have to do with being able to deliver instruction, plan and execute lessons, produce students who will succeed later in life, etc. when that teacher is in his/her mid-20's, 30's, 40's, 50's?<br /><br />---------------------------<br />"Instead of relying on paper educational credentials, our study analyzed salaries using more-objective measures of ability, such as SAT and GRE scores, and we found that teachers are paid salaries right around where we’d expect, given their skills as measured by these metrics. Moreover, teachers receive pensions, retiree health benefits, and vacation time far exceeding private-sector averages. This makes their total benefits roughly twice as generous as those found in private-sector jobs."<br />---------------------------<br />Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16911854468188214107noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6534665086749553287.post-3996456520614482612018-06-15T19:39:26.762-04:002018-06-15T19:39:26.762-04:00I'm sure the elimination of that requirement w...I'm sure the elimination of that requirement will encourage all the teachers to head to Michigan. /sarcasmS. Muskopfhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10565244205610485233noreply@blogger.com